thanks, and tubs in the picture is the bottom of the holding tub I use when im cleaning them out, not the tubs they live in, the tubs they live in have newspaper and hides and water bowls, basic for now, but safety is paramount, the copperhead and the C.albolabris are in proper enclosures the copperheads on bark and dried leaves with cork bark hides and the albolabris has vines and substrate.